Episode 064

There Is No List?

The Collapse of Trust in The Lie We All Felt

In this raw and timely episode of Awakening Conversations, Kate and Amanda dive deep into the collective shockwave felt when the long-awaited Epstein list was officially declared non-existent. But this isn’t just a conversation about corruption—it’s about the spiritual, emotional, and energetic awakening being triggered by events like these.

Together, they unpack why this moment is a profound turning point in human evolution. They explore the grief that arises when the systems we trusted reveal themselves as illusions, and what it means to confront the lies—both external and internal—that we’ve built our lives upon.

You’ll hear reflections on ego death, the collapse of old paradigms, the rise of a new frequency of truth, and the powerful intersection of grief, anger, compassion, and action. With depth and vulnerability, Kate and Amanda illuminate how we can meet this moment with love—not the polite, people-pleasing kind, but the bold, liberating kind of love that walks hand-in-hand with truth.

If you’ve been feeling the ground shift beneath you, this episode is a potent reminder that you’re not alone—and that what’s falling apart is making space for something more honest, more sovereign, and more soul-led to rise.

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Takeaways:

  • The moment we collectively felt a deep lie, regardless of political beliefs, signaled a profound evolutionary shift. It’s not just about the headlines, but how we feel them in our bodies.
  • As illusions collapse, we’re being asked to shed the ego identities built on fear, conformity, and false narratives and remember who we truly are.
  • Facing uncomfortable truths often brings deep grief. But grief is not the end,it’s a doorway into clarity, healing, and personal sovereignty.
  • When something isn’t true, our bodies know. The visceral reaction many felt to recent events reveals how intuitive and wise we truly are when we pause and listen.
  • This moment calls us to reevaluate who we’ve given our power to and invites us to reclaim it. Institutions, political figures, and systems are not immune from scrutiny.
  • Awakening Isn’t Always Gentle. For some, this is a soft unraveling. For others, it’s a rude awakening. Either way, the shock is real and we need to hold space for each other through it. 
  • We can name distortions and see through manipulation without hate. Truth-telling becomes powerful when rooted in love, not fear.
  • As the old house of cards falls, a new paradigm is emerging—one based on honesty, embodied leadership, inner knowing, and soul-aligned living.
  • We each have a part to play—not by fighting the old, but by anchoring a new way of being. This starts with choosing truth, moment by moment.
  • True love isn’t about being nice or staying silent. It’s about honesty, boundaries, and living in alignment with your highest self.

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